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jag420g Resident Mk10\420G Guru
Posts : 445 Join date : 2010-01-19 Age : 66 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Mk10/420G Wheels Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:38 pm | |
| I would like to know what sort of wheels you have on your cars. Whilst I understand that our cars came out originally with 14" steel rims, I have heard of owners upgrading to 15" without any complications, furthermore I have even seen 420G's sporting XJ series 2 chrome wheels. I would appreciate your input outlining your experiences, pros and cons etc. At the present time I am trying to source some 14" standard rims for my car in Australia, maybe I should be looking for something else Charles | |
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awg Admin
Posts : 1792 Join date : 2010-02-18 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: Mk10/420G Wheels Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:40 pm | |
| Hi Charles My original 14 inch wheels had somewhat rusty chrome rings and bad tyres, so I decided to change to 15 inch wheels, as I had a set of alloys handy, and also was able to obtain a set of 15" S1 steel wheels with S3 dress trims for next to nothing. ( see pics on my thread) The alloys are the gold lattice type, I have seen them on Jags b4, they looked good. I fitted the others, as the SS and chrome trim, was very shiny and I think the 420G can stand a fair bit of bling Good luck finding decent S2 chrome wheels, they would look very good if you can imo btw, make sure you get appropriate wheel nuts, as they can be different, also I think the "backspacing" could be an issue with some wheels, alloys in particular All in all, I would say, that even though the 14" wheel does add something "special" to the appearance of the 420G, the 15" wheel looks slightly better. The cars are just so large for such a small wheel What do you think of the look and practicality of the whire wheel examples? | |
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jag420g Resident Mk10\420G Guru
Posts : 445 Join date : 2010-01-19 Age : 66 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Re: Mk10/420G Wheels Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:24 pm | |
| Tony Thanks for that, I agree that 15" wheels from say a series 1 XJ would suit nicely and I could have gone that way but my 14" tyres (whitewalls) were just to good to dispose of so I'm sticking with the 14"s for the time being In regards to wire wheels, It's a matter of personal taste. I personally think that they belong on sports coupes and not on huge saloons. One example is Micah's car on JL. It is a fabulous MK10 he restored from the ground up over many years, it has the wire wheels and looks stunning but to me it's NQR with them on. I'm sort of leaning toward the --If man was meant to fly, God would have given him wings ---way of thinking with this, so I think I am going to stick with the look of the 14's with the correct chrome cap and trims.
Charles | |
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jag420g Resident Mk10\420G Guru
Posts : 445 Join date : 2010-01-19 Age : 66 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Re: Mk10/420G Wheels Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:21 pm | |
| Could anybody with original steel wheels on their car tell me whether the wheel nuts fasten all the way down to the hex part on the actual nut or is there a dome part on the nut top that holds the wheel in situ?? | |
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awg Admin
Posts : 1792 Join date : 2010-02-18 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: Mk10/420G Wheels Thu Nov 04, 2010 2:30 pm | |
| Charles,
On mine the original nuts are same as S1 XJ, ( i think)
in that there is an identical taper on each end, that mates with the taper in the wheel
No domes anywhere, plain steel, drilled and threaded all the way thru
does that answer your question?
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jag420g Resident Mk10\420G Guru
Posts : 445 Join date : 2010-01-19 Age : 66 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Re: Mk10/420G Wheels Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:37 pm | |
| Yes, Thanks Tony, However I was wanting to know whether the taper on the wheel nut was so small that the top of the hex sides of the nut actually make contact with the taper in the wheel as mine do, which i find odd. maybe they are all like that. I'm going to go to one of the wreckers here with one of my wheel nuts as a sample to see what they say. | |
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Car-Nut Admin
Posts : 3004 Join date : 2009-11-16 Age : 57 Location : E. Lancashire : UK
| Subject: Re: Mk10/420G Wheels Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:19 pm | |
| You are certainly putting attention to detail now for this concours show now While on the subject of wheels I read that MK10 & 420G have different hubcaps do you have the right ones Again, if anyone can upload a picture of the 2 versions that would be good | |
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jag420g Resident Mk10\420G Guru
Posts : 445 Join date : 2010-01-19 Age : 66 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Re: Mk10/420G Wheels Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:44 pm | |
| Yes, Clive you are correct, The hubcaps on the Mk10's were the conventional type with the word Jaguar across the center. The 420g had the Jaguar face round badge. | |
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Car-Nut Admin
Posts : 3004 Join date : 2009-11-16 Age : 57 Location : E. Lancashire : UK
| Subject: Re: Mk10/420G Wheels Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:54 pm | |
| Charles, whose that wearing shorts on the top photo | |
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carsie Members
Posts : 148 Join date : 2010-01-19 Age : 65 Location : Suffolk
| Subject: Re: Mk10/420G Wheels Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:34 am | |
| Hi Jag420G- if my memory serves me correctly there is very definately a male/female taper to the wheel nuts and not a flat face mating. | |
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jag420g Resident Mk10\420G Guru
Posts : 445 Join date : 2010-01-19 Age : 66 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Re: Mk10/420G Wheels Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:56 pm | |
| Well people, my original wheels are finally on. They were sourced, sandblasted and then powder coated. I went from these deep dish bad boys (I dunno what the PO was thinking) To this glorious result: Thanks to all for your assistance CHARLES | |
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Ron McGrice 420G Project Author
Posts : 35 Join date : 2011-02-27 Age : 74 Location : Brisbane Australia
| Subject: Re: Mk10/420G Wheels Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:36 pm | |
| Charles, FWIW, Holden HQ - HZ 14" have the same stud pattern. When I bought my Jaguar it wad reversed Holden rims on it and looked dreadfull. Thanfully, Bob Jane imported 14" Dunlop Wire Wheels for the HJ Statesman's in 1975-76. They are the wire wheels on my Jaguar Those wheels also tend to snap spokes, which is a worry, as those spokes are like Hens Teeth in AU! The other day, a young chap was selling 5 Dunlop Wires, the lot for $120! Naturally, I bought them. Bit of rust on some but it will be hard to see on the back Oddly enough, I have Falcon XW wheels on the 1958 Arrow caravan, and would you believe, the Jaguar 420G hub caps actually fit XY-XW wheels! Great match. Cheers, Ron | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Mk10/420G Wheels Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:41 pm | |
| The problem with this type of wheel nut is it is hard to define how much wear has taken place to the taper either on the wheel or nut , I would use the rule of thumb that if the hex is below the face of the wheel then something needs changing .
Alan . |
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